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The Top 100 – Animated Films – 60-41

The legends continue as we steer into more common grounds with everyone. The hosts again have a battle ‘Til All Are One’ when a few movies debut here. Not to mention some diversity returns in this episode whether it be right or wrong. So join us in Episode 54 of this podcast to discover the awe and wonder that will be the GeekCast Radio Network’s Top 100 Animated Films Countdown. Be sure to leave your feedback in the various mentioned ways and as always “UNLEASH THE GEEK IN YOU!”

 

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  1. Surprised to see South Park come up this early. Surprised the highest ranking for it was #9. This was an absolutely brilliant movie, incredibly funny satire and it didn’t have a single bad song in it which even some of the great Disney movies can’t say. Ghost In The Shell I can understand even if I don’t agree with it being outside of the top 25 (people didn’t do their research), but I’m really surprised about South Park. It really is one of the greats.

  2. South Park should be top 20, and All Dogs go to Heaven is too sad to watch.

  3. How could ANYONE SAY the score for Transformers the movie doesn’t match the movie? That is whoa crazy, crazy talk. Seriously, it makes no sense. That score is awesome. The music is 80 rock to a T.

    1. Is the ‘who, crazy, crazy,’ quote a call back to Fantasy Focus? If so, points to you sir. Maybe because I’m not a big 80’s rock fan, it didn’t have the same appeal to me as it did to you.

  4. Okay, time to talk Ghost In the Shell. I’m going to deflect heat away from the panel and direct it at myself, because I’ve watched this movie and never liked it.

    I wouldn’t even call this an action film. It’s a psychological film with action in it. Ghost In The Shell explores topics of existentialism, personal identity, sexual identity, and so on and so forth. But the presentation is as dry as a bone.

    Conspicuous by its absense is characterization. The only time it occurs in the movie is at the end when the Major is “reborn”. This is the movie’s biggest flaw, in my opinion. For a movie that wants to talk about identity and the nature of being, it doesn’t give you a single character you can identify with. The characters are expressionless and lack depth. And that’s why whenever you read the rave reviews of this movie, nobody ever talks about any of them.

    I’m glad to see Ghost In The Shell lagging on the list behind much better anime films (most notably the Ghibli films), some of the lesser Pixar films, and even Transformers The Movie. I think some of the DC films could have even ranked higher than this.

    Admittedly, GITS probably belongs on this list for it’s technical acheivement in traditional animation, but I also feel that this merit should not carry it on its own. At the end of the day, I think that GITS is about thirty places too high on this list.

    There is something to be said for being groundbreaking, but the same could be said for the Star Wars prequels. Being technically marvelous is not the same as being entertaining.

    On the other hand, I’m just not a fan of Mamoru Oshii. The highest-ranking Oshii film on my list was Beautiful Dreamer by quite a large margin. I did not rank Ghost In The Shell at all.

    1. Hi, Neal. Yeah, a lot of anime bores me, frankly. So often I am amazed by the animation, but the stories are often very slow. I’m having that issue with Korra on Nick right now. There are moments where it hits a stride, and then it just becomes bogged down and I start to fall asleep. As Kitty Hawk has said (I believe she said this) a lot is cultural and we just don’t get the humor here in the west. Even in Korra the characters will do silly things and I am thinking, why did we need that? Why waste the time/story/animation on silly gags and whatnot. I don’t know how to describe it, but there seem to be times when characters stand around stoically talking or looking brooding and things just aren’t progressing.

      I do like the stalwarts, although, even they drag on. Like many viewers, I feel I am more amazed by the quality of the animation than the stories. For instance, I enjoy watching Akira, but as you said, I don’t know what it is about. I tried to follow the story and didn’t understand it from just watching the film. And I liked Ghost In The Shell, but I can’t recall much about it at the moment since it has been years since I saw it. I feel it deserves to be on the list though for its technical achievement, critical acclaim and place in pop culture.

      1. Yeah, I can’t stand when characters stand around stoic and/or brooding. Or for a while, it was the spiky-haired emo protagonist, ala Cloud from Final Fantasy VII.

        It infuriates me that people think that this is what anime is. And it’s even more annoying that it’s kind of true.

        The problem with anime is that the quality of animation is almost always a trade-off for slow pacing. It’s how they economize the animation by having characters stand around and not move so much. You can get much better illustrations when you only have to draw a few of them.

        I like the ones that are a little crummier on the animation and more about moving the story along.

  5. Okay, time to talk Ghost In the Shell. I’m going to deflect heat away from the panel and direct it at myself, because I’ve watched this movie and never liked it.

    I wouldn’t even call this an action film. It’s a psychological film with action in it. Ghost In The Shell explores topics of existentialism, personal identity, sexual identity, and so on and so forth. But the presentation is as dry as a bone.

    Conspicuous by its absense is characterization. The only time it occurs in the movie is at the end when the Major is “reborn”. This is the movie’s biggest flaw, in my opinion. For a movie that wants to talk about identity and the nature of being, it doesn’t give you a single character you can identify with. The characters are expressionless and lack depth. And that’s why whenever you read the rave reviews of this movie, nobody ever talks about any of them.

    I’m glad to see Ghost In The Shell lagging on the list behind much better anime films (most notably the Ghibli films), some of the lesser Pixar films, and even Transformers The Movie. I think some of the DC films could have even ranked higher than this.

    Admittedly, GITS probably belongs on this list for it’s technical acheivement in traditional animation, but I also feel that this merit should not carry it on its own. At the end of the day, I think that GITS is about thirty places too high on this list.

    There is something to be said for being groundbreaking, but the same could be said for the Star Wars prequels. Being technically marvelous is not the same as being entertaining.

    On the other hand, I’m just not a fan of Mamoru Oshii. The highest-ranking Oshii film on my list was Beautiful Dreamer by quite a large margin. I did not rank Ghost In The Shell at all.

    Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to hop into my Delorean so I can go back in time to stop Oshii from reading Neuromancer.

  6. Ghost in the Shell is one of the great animated experiences I have ever had. It is criminal it is not even in the top 30.

  7. Glad to see more than just Disney on the list. Hercules though is much too high. That’s an Average movie at best. I always thought Anastasia was a Disney movie lol. Didn’t know it wasn’t until this record.

    The Transformers debate was fun to listen too, I wish it went on for longer. Did not expect anyone on this Network not to be a fan. Also glad it wasn’t in the Top 10 like the Animated Series list. Gotta give you points there.

  8. Crisis on Two Earths was a shock. Did not expect that to be on the list at all. I am not a huge Ghost in the Shell fan. Not my cup o tea. I still think it should be higher. Top 30 or so. Glad My Neighbor Totoro made the list. HOPEFULLY more Hayao Miyazaki is to come.

  9. For the most part, you guys are on point but completely writing off stop motion animation is a bit petulant, and blindly defending everything wrong with “Transformers” falls into fanboy territory. Very enjoyable show though, and fair play for going as long as you did.

    Also, I realise now that I may have included Tartokofsky’s “Clone Wars” in error. I watched them on DVD so I had it in my list. Not sure now if I should have or not.

    1. No…. Fanboying over Transformers is if I said omg everything is right with this. I know there a moments in the animation where it’s spotty at best. HOWEVER there are several things that are RIGHT about it which are:

      -great Story beginning to end (they introduce conflict, resolve it, start a NEW conflict, and go through the motions of resolving that)

      -for the most part the animation is top notch.

      -The Vince DiCola score matches every single scene. Between the action scenes and the quiet slow scenes.

      It’s ME that does not care for the stop motion of Chicken Run, the rest of the panel was fine with it. I just don’t like it in the vein of that film. I prefer CGI or standard traditional animation.

      I mean seriously you are gonna tell me that it’s petulant that I exclude all anime and foreign language films from my PERSONAL list that I submitted, because I don’t know much about the anime genre, and as I’ve stated many times before………..FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILMS WITH SUBTITLES is not ENTERTAINMENT to me. It’s WORK having to read the subtitles. So no thank you.

      I’d rather rank films I know then be a douchebag talking about stuff I have no interest in or have no knowledge of.

      Thanks for the feedback, glad you are liking the countdown so far.

      1. Wasn’t attacking you personally Mike. Just stating how it came across on the show from the context of a listener, and not a participant (in your case) no more than that. I’d hope that just because a film (animated or otherwise) is made in a certain style or using subtitles wouldn’t dissuade you from seeing a film as sometimes a great story, well told, can overcome the style of the film or the techniques used.

        But I am completely on your side of the fence when it comes to anime. As a contributor, I didn’t list any anime (that I can remember!). I’ve seen “Ghost in the Shell” and “Akira”, but neither left a big impression on me, therefore I didn’t put them forward. Maybe it was because I was a teenager when I saw them, and therefore they didn’t resonate with me but I think if I saw them now, I’d feel the same way.

        1. No I know you weren’t attacking me. But I’m the main one that has issues with ranking stuff I’ve NEVER heard of or stuff that doesn’t hit my radar. Hell when Ninja Scroll came up in the list I said I’VE SEEN THAT! so I’m not completely outta the loop with anime. It’s just not my thing. Out of all of us on the panel I’d say I’m the most “mainstream audience” kinda guy.

          1. That’s cool man. Although I’m surprised that the fact Spike’s dad says “shit” wasn’t mentioned. Milestone moment in kids animation. It was cut from the European version, and also included was a voice over at the end which assured all the crying kids that “Optimus Prime will return”.

            But then, you probably knew all this!!

          2. yeah I was gonna say OH SHIT what are the TF fanboys gonna do now? When it was revealed on the countdown, but I didn’t get a chance to. LOL

      2. Reading this comment I’m surprised to see the word “Mod” next to your name. Seems like a very childish way to communicate. The points that were made were valid ones, and your response troubles me some. I’ve enjoyed the episodes so far and Loved the discussion on the boards because I’ve see little flame war discussion like this. I’m hoping this doesn’t cause that to happen. It would be disheartening for it to be started by the person who is supposed to be putting out the flames.

        I don’t get what you are saying exactly. But I understand if you don’t want to rank a movie you haven’t seen. However, it appears like you woefully shun anything that isn’t something you already aware of, or apart of some franchise you know already. I just don’t see the harm in trying new things, and at least being open. It maybe unfair but based on your behavior on this board now and on the podcast you almost pride yourself on being ignor, maybe too strong of a word, unaware of huge sections on the animated word. I believe you even said, “I pride myself on not liking anime”. Why would you pride yourself on not liking something?

        Also as a listener I enjoy when I hear you all talk about a movie. I 100% expect occasions where people haven’t see every movie. However, its much more enjoyable to hear people actually talk about the substance of a movie, even if ts to say the movie isn’t good, as long as they can provide reasoning for it. So one thing I would ask as listener is maybe taking time to watch some of those movies or whatever so you can have a better opinion. I’d be really interested to hear your take on a movie like Ghost in the Shell or Fantastic Mr. Fox. Hearing “I have no interest” hurts my interests in the project. It makes the project illegitimate when don’t even try to break into new ground.

        1. Well I’m sorry that my one opinion hurts your interest in the project. It shouldn’t honestly. I’m only one voice out of the four or five people we have on the recordings. I have an opinion, as does Steve, Kevin, Dan, and others. We all have differing opinions on each matter.

          As far as my Mod status… it’s because #1 I’m the co-creator of the site, and #2 I’m the one who is on the site the most. To catch anything strange going on.

          As far as not trying new things…. I try new things all the time when it comes to watching and or listening to media. I’m just not that into anime. I’ve seen several it’s not my thing. No matter how many times someone… anyone says “you should really check this out” …. I might if my other interests allow me the time to do so. But it’s not gonna be a priority right away. I tried something new when watching Breaking Bad, and watched through the show for a month on Netflix. At the end 90% of the time I disliked the show altogether, but I kept at it. THIS is why I do not enjoy trying new things sometimes. Because if I end up not liking what I’ve spent my time on then I feel I wasted that time. When I could have been watching, reading, or listening to something I would enjoy.

          For years I’ve respected comics, but never really had any interest in picking them up until DEATH OF THE FAMILY last year. Now I’m fully into a lot of different comics. So would you say my opinion of foreign language films in general applies to my not caring about comics for the longest time? Because there is a difference in respecting what any genre has done for something and out right hating on it. I’ve always respected comics, but I was never an avid reader until recently.

          I have never said I hate anime, I respect it, but do not care to watch it. That same principle goes to foreign language films. If the whole film isn’t in English… I’m not interested. That being said there are tons of films, tv shows etc etc… that I watch that have foreign language spoken in them that I watch.

          Please do NOT allow my one opinion ruin your enjoyment of this project. Also do not think that my one opinion…. “makes the project illegitimate” This master list we are revealing shows that the countdown is made up of more people than just me.

          The beauty of this project for me who isn’t interested in anime, might lead me in the future to check some stuff out. Based on others opinions. That last statement might sound contradictory to my statement earlier about no jumping on watching stuff right away. However it is not, my other interests take precedence though.

          Thanks for the feedback, glad you are still enjoying the project.

      3. The best anime was always the stuff that was either made for America or got a very Americanized localization. I think Lupin III, Macross (Robotech), Captain Tylor, and Cowboy Bebop all have a pretty decent worldwide appeal. And for some reason, Pokemon, DBZ, and Sailormoon caught on in the west, too.

        Beyond that, I have a tough time recommending anime to friends. There’s no way I could expect a non-anime fan to watch most other anime, unless I promised that there’d be well-drawn boobs.

        I think what most anime fans don’t understand is that most of America (and the world, for that matter) is not interested in learning a new language or reading a subtitle track just to watch a cartoon.

    2. I thought about including Clone Wars as well, but I think what made me disqualify it was that it was never actually intended to be a movie, even though it totally works as one.

      1. Yeah. Ah well, it’s a bit late now. Can’t take it back! Even as a feature made up of shorts, it’s infinitely better than the CGI movie.

    3. I didn’t rank Clone Wars but I assume it would qualify. I mean its not much different that World’s Finest that did make the Top 100.

  10. For the most part you guys are on point, but completely writing off stop motion animation is a bit petulant and blindly defending everything wrong with “Transformers” falls into fanboy territory. Very enjoyable show though, and fair play for going as long as you did.

    Also, I realise now that I may have included Tartokofsky’s “Clone Wars” in error. I watched them on DVD so I had it in my list. Not sure now if I should have or not.

  11. Top 50! Now things get really interesting. South Park B.L.U. is such an amazing movie. Its one that would be even more acclaimed if there wasn’t a TV show, because it would stop people from ignorantly saying its just an extended. I wish it was higher, but glad its higher than the Simpsons movie. Hopefully none of the Family Guy movies make the list.

    As someone who was never a Transformers fan I have always thought it was a bad movie. The plot is thin and pointless. Nearly none of the characters are interesting, and I agree the score super dates the movie. Its laughable at points.

    1. I’m not saying I would rank Transformers higher or even where its at but saying ‘none of the characters are interesting’ is just silly man! The plot is also far from pointless. You can dislike the movie and talk about the animation being flawed etc but attacking the characters and the plot seems wrong in my opinion.

    2. Some of the songs are cheesy, but the score itself (the instrumental stuff) is actually really good. One of my favorite film scores of any film.

    3. WOW really? Now let me be clear when I say film score I’m talking about this music:

      I agree that the songs from the soundtrack do date it to the 80s, but that’s the point. This is an animated film that has that unique 80s stamp on it. As it should always be.

      As far as you discounting the characters, that’s nuts. Whether you are a Transformers fan or not…. there must be at least one character you relate to or like. How is the plot thin and pointless? It’s a 4 million year war that comes to ahead in the biggest battle yet. Where BOTH leaders lose their lives. (Even though Megatron was reformatted) It has the second in command of the Decepticons attempting to take charge, it has a hero that rises throughout the picture, and while Rodimus isn’t the best leader… his journey is a fun one to go on.

      Please explain to me how you think the plot is thin and pointless???

      1. Sorry, yes he soundtrack the score is fine. The plot is thin because it offers nothing new besides the fact they killed a character or two. And the only reason they did that was to get people to buy more toys. It wasn’t a brave move, it was one solely done for finical purposes.

        What does the movie offer that the show didn’t. Its the same thing over and over again. Unlike South Park it is just a longer episode that doesn’t expand on the scope or characterization.

        1. First off please get over the fact that the toys came first, and Hasbro used the show and the film to make, market, and sell new stuff. THAT HAPPENS with everything these days. It’s just a fact of life.

          “What Does the movie offer that the show didn’t?” OK during the show Shockwave was left on Cybertron with who knows how many other non core Decepticons. I’m not saying Shockwave is not a core character he is, and the Autobots and Decepticons crashed to Earth, where their war continued. Only once can I think of in the show’s run was Megatron actually on Cybertron, and that is because he was trapped there.

          The film adds to the overall mythos by stating that the Decepticons have won Cybertron. Every CORE Decepticon character is there. While most of the Autobots are on Earth. Sure Prime, Jazz, Cliffjumper, and Ironhide are on Cybertron too. But it is very clearly stated that they are basically fighting a losing battle………

          “We don’t have enough Energon Cubes to power a full scale assault.” So the autobots are in desperate need of the stuff that allows them to have power! The Decepticons seems to have more than enough. They attack the Autobot shuttle, which then translates into the Big Battle on Earth.

          I could go on and on…………. The point is the Autobots in the end come up against something neither faction had ever seen…. Unicron the planet eater. That was something the show NEVER touched on.

          Hopefully this answers your question. I’m not gonna try to change your mind about how you feel about the film, but there is more than meets the eye when you really think about TFTM.

          1. Yes, still none of that is very interesting. And again there’s not much there. When you boil it down its just random battles with little stakes that aren’t that exciting. Listen to the Now Playing podcast on that movie. They shred it to pieces much more than I ever could.

          2. So I attempted something new and listened to Now Playing’s TFTM ep. I got 19 minutes 14 seconds in before I stopped the playback, and deleted the ep. The first 19 mins is them saying “oh I liked the show as a kid, but never went back to it” And then they spend another 10 mins making fun of the actors. Yeah I don’t like podcasts that are that immature about the material.

          3. Hmm, don’t know what you are talking about in regards to not being mature about the podcast or how they are making fun of actors Are you talking about the Orsen Wells stuff because that’s rather funny and true. Not immature. I’d say listen to how they actual breakdown the movie.

          4. I’m talking about how they insult Judd Nelson, and didn’t even bother to find out the name of the actor in Season 3 that replaced him. Which was Dick Gautier.Their whole negativity in those first 19 mins was ohhh a toyline is a cartoon….. etc etc.

            People used to and still say at times I do not do my research before recording a podcast. They clearly, at least some of them didn’t do any damn research before recording that episode. How hard is it to look up G1 character names and bios? It takes less than 5 mins.

            As I stated in a previous comment, I’ll give something one or two tries, after that I’m not wasting my time. I don’t find any of them funny, and I find their over abundance of negativity just bad. Sure I can be SUPER negative and one minded one certain topics, but these guys are by far some of the worst podcasters I’ve ever heard. So Now Playing nope, not even gonna try to listen to anything else. It isn’t a show I care to spend time on.

          5. Geez. You can’t hear anyone say anything bad about Transformers. Fanboyism is a disease. One with a cure. It starts with being able to handle criticism of something you like. Plus two of the people on that record are huge Transformers fans, but they have the ability to be rationale.

          6. Are you kidding me? I EVEN say bad things about Transformers the franchise overall. There are some very bad moments in it that I hate. Like the Unicron Trilogy of Cartoons. I know and get that G1 had it’s issues as a cartoon series, but that film isn’t as bad as those “fans” make it out to be.

            You say two of them on their a huge TF fans…. yet I heard all three say that they haven’t been in the loop on TF for a long time. The other on never got into it. So yeah some “fans”

            I’ll admit that From 1989 through 2002 I was out of the loop as far as TF. I KNEW of Beast Wars but wasn’t watching at the time it was on. I knew TF was still around, but I didn’t start actively getting involved until 2008, when I wanted to reclaim my childhood toys.

            I’ve heard plenty of people tear G1 to shreds, hell I even did it. But I’ve never heard anyone over analyze, critize something two outta three “love” and just not care about what they are reviewing, as much as that episode of their podcast. Sure I overthink, over analyze sometimes, and my suspension of disbelief is very low sometimes, but yikes. They went into it with no nostalgia and that’s great, but in that first 20 mins I didn’t hear them say anything good or constructive about the film at all.

          7. Just because you don’t find the plot interesting does not mean it doesnt exist or is super thin. I have no problem with people critiquing the film but you can’t call a plot ‘thin’ just because YOU don’t find it to your liking. You can say you ‘dislike’ the plot but you have offered no evidence to support your ‘thin’ claim. And yes ANY film can be tore to shreds so no need to listen to another podcast do that. I could do that as well.

          8. And just because YOU say its there doesn’t mean its there easier. YOU have yet to provide any evidence to say its actually has substance. The film moves from battle to battle with barely and time to establish the story. It fails to appeal to anyone who is Not a Transformers fan. Characters are introduced and the only reason you care about them is because the story tells you to. Most of the new characters are either without personality or generically thrown together. The entire Unicron thing happens just because. The subplot of the Junk Planet is so out there and pointless, and weird for being weird.

            The entire Bike Robots come in for no reason, again weird for being weird. Things just happen, because the story wants it to happen and nothing is organic.

          9. Actually enjoying you two’s discourse here although it has somewhat hijacked this post and the actual Top 100 Animated Movies subject :( – I’m not playing the classic argument game though…when someone is asked to detail their point and they just turn around and say ‘no you detail your point’ ;)

    4. I don’t dislike the Transformers movie, it may appeared so on the episode as I knew I was among big Transformers fans so I tried to play devil’s advocate the best I could. Like I mentioned I did rank it in the 80’s or so. I find it odd you’d say the plot is thin, when I had the opposite issue as it was too convoluted for someone who is not a fan of the franchise. I didn’t mind any of the characters really like you either. Some were annoying sure, but its a kids cartoon so that’s bound to happen.

  12. Oh, and All Dogs Go To Heaven is a great movie. Bluth kicked the hell out of Disney in the 80’s up until 89. I also feel that if “Mermaid”, “Beauty and the Beast”, “Aladdin” and “The Lion King” were spaced out more, the dip in Disney quality wouldn’t be as noticeable. Although I do rate “Pocahontas” higher than the list. My wife picked it up on blu ray lately, and my daughter loves it. It holds up better than I thought, and the songs are still very high quality.

    1. I still dislike All Dogs, simply because of the plot of the film. As I stated too sad and depressing, but I do agree the animation was top notch. And you are right about the timed releases.

      Aladdin was 92, Lion King 94… these days films are released a lot more sparsely. Disney might have 1 or 2 a year. Hell look at Pixar and the gaps between the Toy Story Trilogy. That’s the way to space stuff out.

      1. Sorry. Again, I didn’t clarify my own point. What I meant by “spacing out” was that If the four mentioned above had come out of a period of 10 years instead if 5, and film like “Tarzan” and “Hunchback” had come out in between, then the drop in quality wouldn’t have been noticed, ya know? Apologies for the lack of clarity. It’s 1:20am in Ireland. And I have a very active 2 year old!!

      2. Personally, as far as Burt Reynolds/Dom Deluise movies go, I think I prefer The Cannonball Run.

        I think everyone should see the second All Dogs film at least once.

        It’s not good. God NO, it’s terrible. But it’s so weird in that it reverses everything. Everything that happens at the end of All Dogs Go To Heaven is undone in the second film. And what happens to Carface is downright dark.

  13. The train keeps rolling. Loving what I am hearing so far. Super surprised not the see Transformers a lot higher.

    When I heard Charlotte’s Web up so high I was ecstatic. You are all so right. That movie is required viewing as a child.

  14. Daaannng guys, this is mighty cool. A lot of fun listening to all this. I have only watched a handful of cartoon movies so I can’t say how right the list is. No complaints for me. I’ll say it now though. Lion King number 1. It’s gotta be.

    1. That’s a good guess, based on the list so far I assume the Vegas odds are in its favor.

  15. Surprised there wasn’t more love for Fantastic Mr. Fox. The movie surprised me big time. For some reason every time you have talked about the Rescuers all I could think of was the Rescue Rangers. And now the theme song is stuck in my head. :)

  16. Finally we see PIXAR! Brave though…there are no words to explain how confused I am on that one. Please god let there be no Cars 2 or Monsters University.

    1. I recently saw MU, and really enjoyed it. BUT of all time, I’d have it in the 80s

  17. I’m glad to see more diversity somewhat this time around. Fantastic Mr. Fox is excellent, for those who have not seen it they need to.

    Will you be discussing how you all put together your lists, because I’m interested in all of your thought processes. Where you thinking more favorite or more based on quality. Its hard for me to argue against what someone ranked where, when I don’t have a clear idea of how to went about it.

    All in all though, this has been a grand old time.

  18. I disagree that Rango and Fantastic Mr. Fox are not appealing to younger kids. I know plenty that adore both of them a great deal.

    Right now Charlotte’s Web is the best good surprise of the list so far. Totally unexpected, but totally deserving.

    1. I did stay I don’t see those movies appealing to a younger audience. I’m sure, like you stated, there are kids out there that like them. Just that they both don’t have certain aspects you expect with a children’s movie. Plus there are both a little slow for some people, so I could see kids getting bored.

  19. The Transformers movie is easily Top 25 material, if not Top 10. Story, animation, and soundtrack are all top notch.

  20. Ghost in the Shell should be higher. At least it made it, and at least we had some movies that WEREN’T Disney.

  21. My Neighbor Totoro is such a beloved story it should be much higher. Non anime fans would even like it.

  22. Awesome podcasts so far guys!

    Quick question though, why does Dan call Miyazaki, “Matsuki”?

    Again, good job guys! (Although I don’t understand all the love for the direct to dvd DC films o.0)

    1. I don’t even know why I do that. Slip of the tongue I guess. I baffle me sometimes.

      Regarding the DVD DC films I think there are certain films that are deserving. Really just Under the Red Hood and the Dark Knight Rreturns films. And if you want to count Return of the Joker in that group as well. Crisis on Two Earths was a shock to me. I agree it doesn’t belong.

  23. A few more thoughts on some placements:

    -Mulan: Love the music. Better than Hercules.
    -Hercules: Love the art style and ambitious designs for the Gods/Goddesses. Still worse than Mulan.
    -Anastasia: An unabashed Disney knock-off. Also, it turns a sad and bloody history into a movie about a girl and a villain with evil powers -_-. Why Pocahontas gets all the hate and this avoids it, I will never know.
    -The Transformers Movie: ??????? I didn’t even know this was a thing. Considering I LOATHED the live action movie (haven’t seen the sequels), I’ll skip this one.
    -The Miyazaki films: Awesome. I knew they would be around there. Glad to see them on.
    -Ghost in the Shell: A landmark anime film everyone should see. Also, slightly, incredibly boring….. Its placement is fine.
    -Brave: The best looking Pixar to date, for sure. I never really understand the “meh” feeling towards this one. As a comparison to their past works, yes, it is neither as creative or as original, but I still really enjoyed it. I guess that might be because it feels a little safe……

    As for the comment about anime fans getting mad if others don’t like the films they do, well, I feel like that is generalizing it a bit. These are the loud, annoying, weeaboos. It’s the same for the people who think “Cars” is the best Pixar movie. My interest in anime came from my love of animation, which was being starved due to seeing shitty CGI film after shitty CGI film here. Yeah, its an acquired taste, but we aren’t all the same :p.

    1. So I take it you didn’t grow up with Transformers? Compared to the Bay Films TFTM is wayyy better!

      1. No, I have no nostalgic attachment to it whatsoever. My parent’s weren’t really fond of the “superhero” thing, so I never watch or had any Transformers or Batman or Superman…..

    2. The live action and animated Transformers movies are like apples and oranges. I’m not saying you will like the animated movie but writing it off due to the live-action films is just…..wrong! :)

      1. Agree. You shouldn’t discount the animated movie. The animation is very good and it’s just an epic battle with robots. Check it out.

    3. That’s true, generalizing anime fans is not fair. I’m sure if we left Pixar out of the Top 10 many would be in arms as well. The reason we indicated people would have an issue with the ranking of specific Anime films is due to the reactions we have gotten so far. One of the biggest for this list and the last was the lack of anime. But thanks for the response. You make a lot of great points.

  24. So glad to finally see Pixar. I loved how you had back to back anime, then back to back Pixar. That was hilarious.

  25. I’ve listened to the podcast and read all of the comments, even the Transformers The Movie argument between Mike and Kevin (not Kevin Thompson). Overall I believe this is shaping up to be a good list. That said…

    Who in the world is ranking some of these films in the top ten!!! Some of the people submitting lists must be very young or not very well rounded. If you just look at Disney and Pixar alone there are more worthy films, but then you throw in other studio movies and there’s no way those movies are top ten, or even top twenty worthy. None of my top twenty films have been on the list yet, and that’s what I would expect because even though my list has its problems, I did try to recognize critically-acclaimed, fan-favorites, and timeless classics in the upper echelon of films.

    I have not seen Fantastic Mr. Fox but I know it was critically-acclaimed and i forgot to rank it, but I know it deserves a spot on the list.

    Recently I watched Mulan and I though it was a good film, worthy of being on a top 100. Hercules was a lot of fun, but I haven’t seen it in a while.

    A Bug’s Life was okay, as was Cars. They’re beautiful movies and look great on Blu-ray, but they are the lower-quality Pixar films. I would probably agree they should be outside of the top 50, but I won’t complain too much.

    Lastly, I’m going to stand up for Brave. Sure, it wasn’t a movie I wanted to see after watching the trailers, but when I did see it I enjoyed it. It’s not a movie I would come back to often, but it’s a well-done movie. I do feel it is worthy of the top 100, although its placement may be too high.

    Kung Fu Panda is a solid film. It was another one of those, “Oh, another Dreamworks movie.” moments for me. But it actually was a lot of fun.

  26. I have listened to a few of these episodes and a few things have come to my mind:

    -I am also not a huge anime fan. I have no issue with any of the placement of the anime stuff.

    -Anastasia is a horrible movie and is better placed on a Top 100 worst list.

    -Not surprised by the love for Disney, well except for the love of Goofy Movie and Meet the Robinsons.

    -I will stick up for brave any day of the week. Severely underrated. People love to bash that movie. I don’t get why.
    -Glad to see some of the DC stuff, though Wonder Woman to me is their best movie BESIDES the Batman stuff. Crisis on Two Earths is only average.

    -Fantastic Mr. Fox was boring too me, and way too weird. I’d put it a lot lower.

    Its been a lot of fun though. Looking forward to more for sure.

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