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Today on Episode 60 of the Cinema Geeks …..we talk about the long awaited casting of Spider-Man, we talk about what’s next for Vin Diesel, Michael Keaton and Ben Affleck, we give you our thoughts on Inside Out, Black Sea, Shame and the original Mission Impossible, and in our main attraction we discuss the idea of ‘originality’ when it comes to films
Box Office: [00:00:00]
https://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
Predictions from last week:
Kevin: Inside Out will make More than 70 million but less than Toy Story 3
Dan: Inside Out will beat Toy Story 3’s Opening weekend
Amanda: Jurassic World will remain at #1/Inside Out will be #2
News: [00:00:00]
Wolverine in X-Men: Apocalypse
What’s Next for Michael Keaton
X-Men/Fantastic Four Crossover
Trailer Talk [00:00:00]
Peanuts – Trailer #3
Dragon Blade – Jackie Chan/Adrien Brody
Daddy’s Home – Will Ferrell
Final Girl – UK Trailer
MacBeth – International Teaser
Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension
Trainwreck – International Trailer
Hitman: Agent 47 – Trailer #2
Main Attraction: [00:00:00]
Discussion: Originality in Film
What We’ve Been Watching: [00:00:00]
Inside Out
Black Sea
Paradise Lost Trilogy
Hot Girls Wanted
Homework Assignments:
Shame
The Way Back
Question: [00:00:00]
How do you define and value originality in film?
Geeks:
Kevin @OptimusSolo
Dan @MovieRevolt
Amanda @HardCandiMandi
Nothing
is 100% original. Ever. How could it be? Everything happens in relation to
everything else, beside everything else, within and without everything else;
everything is a piece to a much larger whole, and every whole is just a piece
to something else. Being a cliché, or an imitator, or whatever else is not a
thing an artist wants to be. An artist wants to express his or her self in a
most unique fashion. Most art is, isn’t it, about self expression? Self
expression is about expressing yourself, not someone else’s. If it looks like
you’ve plagiarised someone else’s work, whatever work, on whatever platform,
that’s not cool. But if someone else’s work or ideas is used for inspiration what’s
wrong with that. I agree with you all that people use the originality complaint
as a crutch. Even the most original idea has its roots somewhere else.
I think your first couple sentences speak exactly to my main point, that I hope I presented in the show. Everything is based or inspired on something that came before it!
Nothing is 100% original. Ever. How could it be? Everything happens in relation to
everything else, beside everything else, within and without everything else;
everything is a piece to a much larger whole, and every whole is just a piece
to something else. Being a cliché, or an imitator, or whatever else is not a
thing an artist wants to be. An artist wants to express his or her self in a
most unique fashion. Most art is, isn’t it, about self expression? Self
expression is about expressing yourself, not someone else’s. If it looks like
you’ve plagiarised someone else’s work, whatever work, on whatever platform,
that’s not cool. But if someone else’s work or ideas is used for inspiration what’s
wrong with that. I agree with you all that people use the originality complaint
as a crutch. Even the most original idea has its roots somewhere else.
Nothing
is 100% original. Ever. How could it be? Everything happens in relation to
everything else, beside everything else, within and without everything else;
everything is a piece to a much larger whole, and every whole is just a piece
to something else. Being a cliché, or an imitator, or whatever else is not a
thing an artist wants to be. An artist wants to express his or her self in a
most unique fashion. Most art is, isn’t it, about self expression? Self
expression is about expressing yourself, not someone else’s. If it looks like
you’ve plagiarised someone else’s work, whatever work, on whatever platform,
that’s not cool. But if someone else’s work or ideas is used for inspiration what’s
wrong with that. I agree with you all that people use the originality complaint
as a crutch. Even the most original idea has its roots somewhere else.
I think your first couple sentences speak exactly to my main point, that I hope I presented in the show. Everything is based or inspired on something that came before it!
Nothing is 100% original. Ever. How could it be? Everything happens in relation to
everything else, beside everything else, within and without everything else;
everything is a piece to a much larger whole, and every whole is just a piece
to something else. Being a cliché, or an imitator, or whatever else is not a
thing an artist wants to be. An artist wants to express his or her self in a
most unique fashion. Most art is, isn’t it, about self expression? Self
expression is about expressing yourself, not someone else’s. If it looks like
you’ve plagiarised someone else’s work, whatever work, on whatever platform,
that’s not cool. But if someone else’s work or ideas is used for inspiration what’s
wrong with that. I agree with you all that people use the originality complaint
as a crutch. Even the most original idea has its roots somewhere else.
I would agree with the idea that a movie is not inherently unoriginal because it is a sequel or remake. Heck, Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies and it is the second movie in a trilogy and the six Batman movie. With that said though I would say movies today are suffering from a lack of a new ideas. Obviously comic book movies are the first thing people think of. There’s a new one every month it seems. Although I would challenge people to look at the comic book movie genre as a whole and there is much more good than bad. It has a better ratio than most genres. What bugs me are the other remakes or stupid attempts to create franchise. Like why is a Transporter movie happening with a new star? That’s just dumb. You have the rip off Fast and Furious franchises like Need for Speed which are plainly awful. So the way I see it is that good and successful movies lead to some really pathetic attempt to cash in what is hot. After Twilight hits big they want to make the next Twilight, after Hunger Games, the next Hunger Games, and it can go on.
Yea I get what you are saying here as well. I think you bring up a good point when it comes to comic book movies. It IS a genre of film. Saying you are sick of comic book movies or that they are getting old is like saying…”I’m really sick of romantic comedies” or “Action films are so old” . Just seems rather silly!
Yea I get what you are saying here as well. I think you bring up a good point when it comes to comic book movies. It IS a genre of film. Saying you are sick of comic book movies or that they are getting old is like saying…”I’m really sick of romantic comedies” or “Action films are so old” . Just seems rather silly!
I like the point that originality is more based on experience. I think that’s the truth. I see that a lot where people are like this movie ripped off this comic or this TV is just this other movie from the 1980’s. But in reality a lot of the stuff they say was the original was a copy from something else as well.
I like the point that originality is more based on experience. I think that’s the truth. I see that a lot where people are like this movie ripped off this comic or this TV is just this other movie from the 1980’s. But in reality a lot of the stuff they say was the original was a copy from something else as well.
Exactly!