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Today on Episode 94 of the Cinema Geeks …..We give you more reasons to be excited about the Black Panther film, we tell you which films are facing production issues and in our main attraction we give you our take on Captain America: Civil War
News:
Black Panther Casting
The Irishman
Godzilla 2
Oceans Eleven
Aquaman
Main Attraction:
Movie Review: Captain America: Civil War
What We’ve Been Watching:
Green Room
The Boy
The Finest Hours
Vertigo
Kill Your Friends
Question:
Where does Civil War rank in the MCU?
Geeks:
Kevin @OptimusSolo
Dan @MovieRevolt
Amanda @HardCandiMandi
Matt @FridleyCent
I liked the idea of doing a female heist movie but why call it Oceans Its like Hollywood does not think people will go to a women’s movie unless its tied to a known franchise. People want to see good movies period. The gender only matters in the mind of movie excecs
Agreed!
Preach!
People that hated BVS just couldn’t handle a really dark psychological superhero film. You can scream the word fanboy or whatever you want, but critics and audiences wanted BVS to be similar in many ways to a Marvel film so that they could like it. Facts can hurt sometimes. Civil War was fine but more of the same. BVS gave us something different.
The truth of the matter is that you didn’t understand BVS, along with many others that wanted a certain template to be followed. It wasn’t badly written. What you are seeing unfold is the arc of Superman. Read about what was taking place in the film and don’t draw conclusions based on FEELINGS. Opinions are endless. Maybe you’re heart was melted but tons of people raved about Affleck’s portrayal of Frank Miller’s Batman. It was awesome!
Snyder didn’t ruin anything. What you saw is ripped from the comics. All presented in a serious real world setting.
it was BADLY written, the JL crap was so shoehorned in there. YES I AGREE Affleck was great, I never said he wasn’t……….
But they spent 2 and a half nearly 3 years on crappy marketing, and the end result is a film that is too long, and a film that shows Batman as a hypocrite. When it comes to the killing aspect. Superman deserved better, Cavill deserved a second solo film, before bringing Batman in, and rushing straight to JL.
“the truth of the matter is you didn’t understand BVS.” – ok then… how am I not understanding it? Superman killed Zod and a buncha other people in MOS, this means that they then NEED Batman to come in and reign his actions in…. THEN you throw in luthor who wants to use the kryptonian ship to create doomsday… uh ok then….. meanwhile Bruce and Clark have a dick waving match on who’s right on each of their positions. HELL the fight between them wasn’t even that long.
Hack Snyder made a dark film, just for the sake of making a dark film. And just to set up for the W film and jL film. I’m all for a WW film, but WB and DC need better writers and a director that understands the characters better. At least Joel Schumacher has said that he SET OUT to mKE A BRIGHTER LOOKING PAIR bATMAN FILMS. hE HAS SAID THAT HE WANTED THEM TO FEEL LIKE YOU WERE WATCHING A COMIC UNFOLD.
If I want the Miller Dark Knight Returns story…. the DC Universe Animated Film did it better than the BS that is BVS. Sorry we can’t agree on this.
It has nothing to do with not understanding BVS and yes it was atrocious writing. Did you listen to our episode on BVS?? Please go back and listen and then we can continue this discussion, I don’t want to rehash it all via text at the moment. Also, I had no desire whatsoever for BVS to be anything like any of the Marvel films so that has nothing to do with it at all.
I can’t speak for other people but personally I don’t mind the idea of going for a darker tone. It makes sense to separate from Marvel. And I love the Dark Knight which I would say without question has a darker tone and is nothing like Marvels films.
Being different isn’t the issue its not properly telling a story that hurts BVS. The character motivations are lacking and much of the action I found unsatisfying. I think BVS was trying to go for deeper meaning but by the end it was just a barebones cliche boss fight. Maybe I missed something and if I did I’d like to know what exactly the deeper meaning was behind BVS and how it effectively executed that theme.
Civil War to me is the best Marvel movie period. Great character moments, action is great, funny, fun, and everything works so well. 10/10 for me.
The first Avengers is still top for me. Nothing will ever top that amazing experience of seeing the team come together for the first time.
I agree on he experience but as a movie it is not as strong. Story wise its your plain Jane alien invasion, the first half is a bit messy, but the ending is epic so you walk away happy.
I think the 1st act had issues but some overlooked highlights. I still love the first interaction between Thor, Iron Man, and Cap.
I liked the idea of doing a female heist movie but why call it Oceans Its like Hollywood does not think people will go to a women’s movie unless its tied to a known franchise. People want to see good movies period. The gender only matters in the mind of movie excecs
Agreed!
Preach!
People that hated BVS just couldn’t handle a really dark psychological superhero film. You can scream the word fanboy or whatever you want, but critics and audiences wanted BVS to be similar in many ways to a Marvel film so that they could like it. Facts can hurt sometimes. Civil War was fine but more of the same. BVS gave us something different.
if by different you mean even crappier writing then Batman & Robin … ummm… ok? The acting in BVS is fine, Affleck is by far the best Bat-bruce combo character, but the story, and writing in the film are all over the place. Dare I say it is worse than Spidey 3 throwing in too many characters, because what the BS that BVS did was throw in way too many plotlines, and it couldn’t juggle them all at once.
The difference I feel between Marvel and DC film universes is that Marvel set out to create a universe, and they have done that. Starting with Iron Man through to Civil war… all the characters are well written, and no character development is given, then ripped away. They link things from film to film, all DC does with their films is throw the spaghetti at the wall, and see what sticks, and most of it falls in the trash.
The truth of the matter is that you didn’t understand BVS, along with many others that wanted a certain template to be followed. It wasn’t badly written. What you are seeing unfold is the arc of Superman. Read about what was taking place in the film and don’t draw conclusions based on FEELINGS. Opinions are endless. Maybe you’re heart was melted but tons of people raved about Affleck’s portrayal of Frank Miller’s Batman. It was awesome!
Snyder didn’t ruin anything. What you saw is ripped from the comics. All presented in a serious real world setting.
it was BADLY written, the JL crap was so shoehorned in there. YES I AGREE Affleck was great, I never said he wasn’t……….
But they spent 2 and a half nearly 3 years on crappy marketing, and the end result is a film that is too long, and a film that shows Batman as a hypocrite. When it comes to the killing aspect. Superman deserved better, Cavill deserved a second solo film, before bringing Batman in, and rushing straight to JL.
“the truth of the matter is you didn’t understand BVS.” – ok then… how am I not understanding it? Superman killed Zod and a buncha other people in MOS, this means that they then NEED Batman to come in and reign his actions in…. THEN you throw in luthor who wants to use the kryptonian ship to create doomsday… uh ok then….. meanwhile Bruce and Clark have a dick waving match on who’s right on each of their positions. HELL the fight between them wasn’t even that long.
Hack Snyder made a dark film, just for the sake of making a dark film. And just to set up for the W film and jL film. I’m all for a WW film, but WB and DC need better writers and a director that understands the characters better. At least Joel Schumacher has said that he SET OUT to mKE A BRIGHTER LOOKING PAIR bATMAN FILMS. hE HAS SAID THAT HE WANTED THEM TO FEEL LIKE YOU WERE WATCHING A COMIC UNFOLD.
If I want the Miller Dark Knight Returns story…. the DC Universe Animated Film did it better than the BS that is BVS. Sorry we can’t agree on this.
It has nothing to do with not understanding BVS and yes it was atrocious writing. Did you listen to our episode on BVS?? Please go back and listen and then we can continue this discussion, I don’t want to rehash it all via text at the moment. Also, I had no desire whatsoever for BVS to be anything like any of the Marvel films so that has nothing to do with it at all.
I can’t speak for other people but personally I don’t mind the idea of going for a darker tone. It makes sense to separate from Marvel. And I love the Dark Knight which I would say without question has a darker tone and is nothing like Marvels films.
Being different isn’t the issue its not properly telling a story that hurts BVS. The character motivations are lacking and much of the action I found unsatisfying. I think BVS was trying to go for deeper meaning but by the end it was just a barebones cliche boss fight. Maybe I missed something and if I did I’d like to know what exactly the deeper meaning was behind BVS and how it effectively executed that theme.
Civil War to me is the best Marvel movie period. Great character moments, action is great, funny, fun, and everything works so well. 10/10 for me.
The first Avengers is still top for me. Nothing will ever top that amazing experience of seeing the team come together for the first time.
I agree on he experience but as a movie it is not as strong. Story wise its your plain Jane alien invasion, the first half is a bit messy, but the ending is epic so you walk away happy.
I think the 1st act had issues but some overlooked highlights. I still love the first interaction between Thor, Iron Man, and Cap.
Similar for me where it was one of the most exciting movie experiences ever. Heard more cheering than in an actual sporting event, but as a movie feel Civil War and Winter Solider are stronger.