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Weekend At The Movies – 8/18/2014 – Under My Skin

Today on Weekend at the movies we’ll be discussing ….. some interesting casting calls, a DC film many people don’t want happening and how a movie can get under my skin – all that and more on weekend at the movies…

Box Office:

https://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

Headlines

Power Rangers Release Date

Lauren Bacall

Inhumans

Aquaman

Han Solo and Stormtroopers – First Look?

Star-lord’s father identity?

Sequels/Remakes

Godzilla 2 – NO!

Bad Boys 3

Texas Chainsaw Massacre Prequel

Casting Call

Mary Shelley Biopic

Ben Hur Casting

Paul Giamatti

Trailer Talk

Revenge of the Green Dragons

Rudderless

Open Windows

Kelly and Cal

Beyond the Lights

Guidance

The Admiral – Roaring Currents

 

Question:

How will the new Power Rangers movie do at the box-office?

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Geeks:

Kevin @OptimusSolo

Nathan Crocker @AdolfoShabbaDoo

Matt Fridley @FridleyCent

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Kevin "OptimusSolo"

OptimusSolo is a Cartoon Historian and even has an actual History degree to go with it. He's also an avid Toy collector boasting an over 1,000 piece Star Wars collection and nearly 400 Transformer toys. He is one of the hosts of the Powers of Grayskull series. He also has a passion for cartoon Theme Songs, Star Trek, MacGyver, Baseball, and is a major Movie Geek!

47 Comments

  1. I can’t believe let’s be cops did better than Expendables III… that’s just…. ahhhhh!!!

    1. Getting leaked online killed it. It probably would have done better if it wasn’t leaked online a month ago.

  2. You all are nothing but a bunch of wanker fanboys who have no business doing a film podcast. Listening to your review, which is a word I use extremely loosely, of Under the Skin gave me the same sensation I assume I would have if I listened to mentally
    delayed four year old try to recap the entire Atlas Shrugged novel. Mind numbing, pointless, and unmistakably the people talking do not have the tools to understand what they are talking about.

    You should probably stick with movies that are so bad they are good. Those types of exercises appease Neanderthals along with blinking lights and childish movies like Hercules. You are people who need to be wanked along cause god forbid requires you to think or need movies to follow the same rules everything else does.

    Don’t say you get the point when you have no idea what the point is. Maybe you get it as much your limit capacity will allow. Anyone who thinks they get the entire point by
    the first 10 minutes is better off watching Reality TV or some paint by number superhero movie. Every little minute detail you say that will make it better would waste everything that make it such an achievement. Adding a narrator? You clowns. Fucking clowns.

    Do yourself a favor and read and listen to some people who actually know what FILM is. You are not that. You have no business talking about a movie like this. You think movies are only base story? Are you fucking simple? WHAT? There’s no variation on the score? Maybe your ears are broke along with your mind.

    1. You get on your soapbox about this movie. I thought it was done. Jesus Christ dude I think you’ve said the same type of thing 4 or 5 times now. Let it go. The movie is overrated hipster garbage dude. Calm down. People don’t have to love it.

      1. “People don’t have to love it” – EXACTLY! And trying to insult them just because they don’t like it as much as you do is making yourself the exact person you are trying to make us out to be…

      2. Yes because you never were outspoken about people hating on a movie you love.

    2. Wow thanks for the insightful critique man. I would try to discuss this like intelligent adults but you don’t seem interested in that type of thing. You are entitled to your opinion but hurling personal insults like that is beyond immature and out of line.

      1. And by the way, Matt specifically asked me what I thought the point of the movie was and I gave as much of a detailed response as to what the meaning I got out of it was that I could. Sorry if you missed that segment.

      2. Yes I eventually got to the part where you tried to explain what you thought the movie was. Again TRIED. I had to respond before I got to that point. The ways you were wrong were becoming too overbearing.

        Why would I even dare to have an adult discussion with someone who would put Under the Skin as one of the worst movies they have ever seen. You are either just trying to be a jerk with a statement like that. That or your just full of yourself to believe you figured out everything about the movie that no one else has. Thank god you are here to set us straight.

      3. Yea and you are not wrong. I am acting childish here. I know that very much. Just when someone is going to bash something I love and lookdown on those that like my claws come out.

        1. I was never looking down on anyone that likes it. I respect Dan’s opinion about movies more than most and he loved it.

    3. You also clearly have not heard or read any of my top film lists which are full of movies that make you think! I’m not even sure what you are saying I’m a ‘fanboy’ of…??

    4. I’m not sure exactly what a post like this is going to accomplish? I mean would you rather people say they liked it when they didn’t? Since when does someone’s opinion about a movie determine their intelligence?

      I get not wanting to hear bad things about a movie you like, but come on man. Isn’t that part of the experience? Wouldn’t it be a rather stale world if everyone had the same opinion?

      I loved Under the Skin. I completely disagree with a lot of what they said. I too think a adding a narrator would ruin the movie, but I don’t begrudge someone for thinking of ways they would better enjoy something..

      I can’t speak for Nate or Matt but Kevin is one of the last people I’d call a fanboy, well unless you are talking about voice actors. Go back and listen to our discussions on 12 Years a Slave, Her, among others.

      Someone’s opinion on one movie does not define them. That’s ludicrous.

      1. An opinion on a movie does determine your intelligence. How you back up that opinion does. And in this podcast what I heard were man children who have no business talking about a movie like this.

        1. This just shows your lack of knowledge about us and on the whole idea of differing opinions, debates and intelligent discussions about subjects where people hold opposite opinions.

          And OPINIONS on anything absolutely do NOT show your intelligence. That’s absurd.

  3. You all are nothing but a bunch of wanker fanboys who have no business doing a film podcast. Listening to your review, which is a word I use extremely loosely, of Under the Skin gave me the same sensation I assume I would have if I listened to mentally
    delayed four year old try to recap the entire Atlas Shrugged novel. Mind numbing, pointless, and unmistakably the people talking do not have the tools to understand what they are talking about.

    You should probably stick with movies that are so bad they are good. Those types of exercises appease Neanderthals along with blinking lights and childish movies like Hercules. You are people who need to be wanked along cause god forbid requires you to think or need movies to follow the same rules everything else does.

    Don’t say you get the point when you have no idea what the point is. Maybe you get it as much your limited capacity will allow. Anyone who thinks they get the entire point by
    the first 10 minutes is better off watching Reality TV or some paint by number superhero movie. You say you get the point of the movie but not once did you ever mention what that point is. Please do, oh god please do so I can see just how crazy wrong you are.

    Every little minute detail you say that will make it better would waste everything that make it such an achievement. Adding a narrator? You clowns. Fucking clowns.

    Do yourself a favor and read and listen to some people who actually know what FILM is. You are not that. You have no business talking about a movie like this. You think movies are only base story? Are you fucking simple? WHAT? There’s no variation on the score? Maybe your ears are broke along with your mind.

    Oh and you hate 2001 too. Of course you do cause your a simple wanker who needs to be fed every minute detail can realize film can be abstract and a technical masterpiece. God forbid something focuses on experience not telling the same story we have heard a million times before.

    This quote just happened. ‘I can make a score that fits a horror film but that doesn’t make it a good score” Fucking retard. Are you that idiotic to not realize the PURPOSE OF A SCORE IS TO FIT YOUR MOVIE!?!? Holy Shit. Wow. Just wow. I am now speechless.

    1. Wow thanks for the insightful critique man. I would try to discuss this like intelligent adults but you don’t seem interested in that type of thing. You are entitled to your opinion but hurling personal insults like that is beyond immature and out of line.

      And by the way, Matt specifically asked me what I thought the point of the movie was and I gave as much of a detailed response as to what the meaning I got out of it was that I could. Sorry if you missed that segment.

      You also clearly have not heard or read any of my top film lists which are full of movies that make you think! I’m not even sure what you are saying I’m a ‘fanboy’ of…??

  4. Honestly you enjoyed Under the Skin more than I thought you would. Kevin hated it as much as I thought he would. He tends to dislike movies that break away from their normal restrictions. Why I would never advise any of you watch movies like Tree of Life, Holy Motors, and probably even something like Drive. You’d hate hem just as much I’m sure.

    Based on your review it appears you get satisfaction from a movie through a narrative storytelling. You want dialogue, you want a story, you want a plot. Fair enough. I enjoy that myself. But movies shouldn’t be limited to just that.

    Under the Skin brilliance doesn’t reside in plot details. When you get upset over the lack of story you are looking at an orange and getting angry that it’s not chocolate cake. Glazer is not interested in narrative here. As cliche as it sounds it very much is an experience. And yes the score plays along with that experience. Movies have so
    many more tools at their disposal then just plot. Displacing mood, jolting the senses, and changing perspective through mood are features that can make movies great as well.

    Look at a scene at the beach. Where being mundane made a scene more effective. A life goes out so quietly without purpose or nose. Treating the death of a father the same way someone would treat the stomping of an ant. A crying baby, a universal side of dread left to whimper with no attention given. Prime example of feeling unnerved. Part of Glazer’s deconstruction of the safety that resides in our societal structure. Plus to me gave granted great insight to the character, which made the eventually turn more effective.

    I can’t tell you to like Under the Skin nor would I ever. Nor does it bother me if someone hates it or thanks it’s the worst thing ever like Kevin. Honestly the first thought that came through my mind listening to you guys was pity, which sounds pretentious I know. Super-duper pretentious. But that’s honestly what I felt. The experience I’ve gotten from UTS is unlike anything I’ve experience from a movie before. I could only assume it’s the same way people felt when they saw 2001 for the first time. I’ve watched a lot of movies. Very few took me to the emotional depths Under the Skin did. As corny as it sounded it was and continues to be a moving experience I only clamor more for.more.

    It is far deeper than the simple ‘Under the Skin’ aspect, and I truly don’t see how you can say how you got the entire message when it didn’t really start showing itself to the final third when she tries to search for what I can only assume is what she believes is humanity. There are some heavy headed messages here but its located in an atmosphere of subtlety. In no way is this repeating the same message over and over. Gender identity is also a key factor, and illustrating what occurs when you try to understand true identity. The shroud that appears after sexual assault. And again themes are only one small but effective aspect of what I dug about the movie.

    From the opening I transfixed myself into the character of Johansson and didn’t let go. Not looking for plot details, not looking for character moments, or witty dialogue exchanges. Simply experiencing it through the eyes of the character. Just because story isn’t happening doesn’t mean nothing is happening. The openings scenes set a structure. A structure she must follow. One with simple rules and simple directions. It could come off as boring. I see it as a reflection of the way our own society function. This group of aliens to me were a microcosm for the futile attempts to break free those restriction and devastating effects that occur when someone attempts to.

    I do appreciate hearing your thoughts on it. I don’t really agree with them, although I don’t think this is something that is agreeable really. Honestly Glazer would probably
    be upset if he didn’t get this type of reaction based on what I’ve read. Your reactions actually fit into one of the major themes. This movie, that refuses to follow the norms placed upon its medium becomes rejected and dismissed. People feel determined to destroy it to prove it really has no meaning when it does not follow expectations.

    Anyways you wanted a rebuttal and I tried to deliver.

  5. Honestly you enjoyed Under the Skin more than I thought you would. Kevin hated it as much as I thought he would. He tends to dislike movies that break away from their normal restrictions like with Thin Red Line. Super slow and methodical mood pieces are clearly not your thing. Why I would never advise you to watch movies like Tree of Life, Holy Motors, and probably even something like Drive. You’d hate them just as much I’m sure.

    Based on your review it appears you get satisfaction from a movie through a narrative storytelling. You want dialogue, you want a story, you want a plot. Fair enough. I enjoy that myself. But movies shouldn’t be limited to just that.

    Under the Skin brilliance doesn’t reside in plot details. When you get upset over the lack of story you are looking at an orange and getting angry that it’s not chocolate cake. Glazer is not interested in narrative here. As cliche as it sounds it very much is an experience. And yes the score plays along with that experience. Movies have so
    many more tools at their disposal then just plot. Displacing you into different atmospheres, jolting the senses, and changing perspective through mood are features that can make movies great as well.

    Look at a scene at the beach. Where being mundane made a scene more effective. A life goes out so quietly without purpose or noise. Treating the death of a father the same way someone would treat the stomping of an ant. A crying baby, a universal side of dread left to whimper with no attention given. Prime example of feeling unnerved. Part of Glazer’s deconstruction of the safety that resides in our societal structure. Plus to me gave granted great insight to the character, which made the eventually turn more effective.

    I can’t tell you to like Under the Skin nor would I ever. Nor does it bother me if someone hates it or thanks it’s the worst thing ever like Kevin. Honestly the first thought that came through my mind listening to you guys was pity, which sounds pretentious I know. Super-duper pretentious. But that’s honestly what I felt. The experience I’ve gotten from UTS is unlike anything I’ve experience from a movie before. I could only assume it’s the same way people felt when they saw 2001 for the first time. I’ve watched a lot of movies. Very few took me to the emotional depths Under the Skin did. As corny as it sounded it was and continues to be a moving experience I only clamor more and .more.

    It is far deeper than the simple ‘Under the Skin’ aspect, and I truly don’t see how you can say how you got the entire message when it didn’t really start showing itself to the final third when she tries to search for what I can only assume is what she believes is humanity. There are some heavy headed messages here but its located in an atmosphere of subtlety. In no way is this repeating the same message over and over. Gender identity is also a key factor, and illustrating what occurs when you try to understand true identity. The shroud that appears after sexual assault. And again themes are only one small but effective aspect of what I dug about the movie.

    From the opening I transfixed myself into the character of Johansson and didn’t let go. Not looking for plot details, not looking for character moments, or witty dialogue exchanges. Simply experiencing it through the eyes of the character. Just because story isn’t happening doesn’t mean nothing is happening. The openings scenes set a structure. A structure she must follow. One with simple rules and simple directions. It could come off as boring. I see it as a reflection of the way our own society functions. This group of aliens to me were a microcosm for the futile attempts to break free those restriction and devastating effects that occur when someone attempts to.

    I do appreciate hearing your thoughts on it. I don’t really agree with them, although I don’t think this is something that is agreeable really. Honestly Glazer would probably
    be upset if he didn’t get this type of reaction based on what I’ve read. Your reactions actually fit into one of the major themes. This movie, that refuses to follow the norms placed upon its medium becomes rejected and dismissed. People feel determined to destroy it to prove it really has no meaning when it does not follow expectations.

    Anyways you wanted a rebuttal and I tried to deliver.And though I disagree with you greatly loved the discussion.

  6. Under the Skin was a very unique experience. I was glued to the screen from the start trying to figure out what this film was doing, where it was going, why these events were happening, how and who these aliens were. A lot of questions go unanswered and sometimes that annoys me in films, however ‘Under The Skin’ provides just enough for the viewer to be able to piece things together and make up their own satisfying/logical/reasonable/feasible conclusion – and that’s what I really like. It got me thinking during and after the film. I keep thinking about it. It’s certainly fascinating. Obviously not for everyone. I would recommend watching it though purely for how different it is compared to most science fiction films out there. It provides something different, to me it feels fresh. I like seeing this sort of diversity explored within a genre. Good atmosphere and very beautiful in places. The part where we get to see the victims inside their trap and what happens to one of them was eerie and mesmerising. It was creepy and very pretty at the same time. Was it CGI or real material floating in liquid? I couldn’t tell. I also loved the music that played whenever she lured someone into the house or when something ‘alien’ was going to happen. Whenever you hear that you know something weird’s going to happen. All in all a refreshingly unusual experience I would recommend to people wanting to watch something different.

  7. Under the Skin was a very unique experience. I was glued to the screen from the start trying to figure out what this film was doing, where it was going, why these events were happening, how and who these aliens were. A lot of questions go unanswered and sometimes that annoys me in films, however ‘Under The Skin’ provides just enough for the viewer to be able to piece things together and make up their own satisfying/logical/reasonable/feasible conclusion – and that’s what I really like. It got me thinking during and after the film. I keep thinking about it. It’s certainly fascinating. Obviously not for everyone. I would recommend watching it though purely for how different it is compared to most science fiction films out there. It provides something different, to me it feels fresh. I like seeing this sort of diversity explored within a genre. Good atmosphere and very beautiful in places. The part where we get to see the victims inside their trap and what happens to one of them was eerie and mesmerising. It was creepy and very pretty at the same time. Was it CGI or real material floating in liquid? I couldn’t tell. I also loved the music that played whenever she lured someone into the house or when something ‘alien’ was going to happen. Whenever you hear that you know something weird’s going to happen. All in all a refreshingly unusual experience I would recommend to people wanting to watch something different.

    From what you all said about it its clear its not a movie for you. What you wanted to change would take away was is glorious about it. Just because you would do the story differently doesn’t mean the movie was bad, does not matter you are a writer. How do you know the changes you would make wouldn’t take away what other people love?

    Changing it may make it a more enjoyable film for you. But that doesn’t mean you’d make it a better movie. Better is a relative phrase I know. I would give the Statue of David a pair a pants. That doesn’t make it a better statue. Can’t you just say its not your type of movie, why do you have to go so far and call it one of the worst movies you ever seen. That’s hyperbolic and slanderous. Just cause you didn’t like it doesn’t make it a bad movie. Transformers and TMNT are bad movies that are poorly made. Under the Skin is by no means poorly made. It is just made for a type of audience. Apparently you don’t belong in that audience. That’s legit. Just simmer down on calling it awful.

  8. If Turtles was as bad as it was, and still made as much as it did I have to believe Power Rangers will do the same. I never got the love for the Power Rangers. They were always too ridiculous for me.

    1. It made me sad when TMNT beat Guardians in its first week out. People wanted to see a train wreck I guess. I didn’t hate the movie as much as I thought I would. It had its moments. Okay moment.

    2. See I see it being a bigger hit than TMNT. Power Rangers has never really left. That fandom is second to none and is only growing.

      1. Really? Second to none? Star Wars, Star Trek, My Little Pony, Pokemon, Transformers…you really think the PR fandom is bigger than those? Just curious…

        1. Power Rangers has earned it’s fandom over the last 20+ years. Just as MLP TF Jem and all the rest of the stuff we love.

          1. I don’t think it can even come close to the size of the fandoms i mentioned though. And I’m a wanker fanboy so I should know best lol

          2. LOL umm… yeah it can there a millions of Power Rangers and Sentai Fans out there

          3. This is not really an opinion – its just wrong. Makes you sound like a fanboy saying PR can compete with Star Wars/Star Trek lmao And you have no clue about the MLP fandom apparently

          4. Star Wars and Star Trek yes. MLP though that’s nothing compared to Power Rangers. It gets more attention because Bronies are this weird cultural phenomenon. It still does not have the lasting appeal of Power Rangers.

          5. way to early to tell that. My Little Pony has been going since the 80s and at its peak probably surpassed PR. You can’t say it can’t compare until the ‘fad’ is over really.

          6. Yo, stop arguing just because you hate the Power Rangers you passive aggressive prick!

          7. It’s not the size of the fandom that matters, it’s the motion in the, wait no. I mean its how great the property is that you are a fan of. In the case of MLP vs Power Ranger the answer is clear. (I will leave it up to you decide what that answer is cause I don’t watch either)

        2. Yea not as big as Star Trek or Wars obviously, I was in the mindset of 80’s properties. My Little Pony is big now but that show was off the
          air for years. Yea it’s hot now but it is nowhere near as big as Power Rangers was when it was big. If you stop random people on the street nearly all will have at least heard of Power Rangers when most don’t even know there is a new My Little Pony cartoon. I don’t deny those fans are hardcore but it’s a flash in the pan compared to Power Ranger. They have had a show on consistently since the early 90’s. Also the worldwide appeal is much bigger with Power Rangers and all its different forms.

        3. Yeah Star Wars, Star Trek, DC Comics / Marvel Comics and Transformers no it doesn’t compare. MLP I could see. TMNT is debatable. PR has had some rotten seasons that made it disappear.

          1. it might have had rotten seasons but it never has disappeared. He-man and the MOTU disappeared from the early 90s to 2002 in both toys and toons …… But PR has been there all along.

            Again I’m not saying ONE Fandom is BIGGER than the other. I’m saying you (@optimussolo:disqus) can’t discount a fandom just because you don’t like it. 20 years and counting is nothing to point your nose up at. It’s fine if you don’t like it, but you have to at least recognize it’s staying power.

          2. When did I discount them just because I don’t like them? All I said was that the claim that there fandom is ‘second to none’ is simply not the case. My ONLY point was that there are at least a half a dozen if not a dozen fandoms that trump the size of the PR fandom. That again was my only point. Don’t go trying to put words in my mouth there buddy ;)

  9. I don’t see a Power Rangers movie doing well. Unless the trailers look amazing. Yea it was popular in the day but how many people can go back and enjoy that show as an adult? Its more unwatchable then the worst Saved By the Bell episodes. Turtles holds up. Especially the movies. It has things for adults to enjoy. People think that old movie was good maybe the new one was. I don’t see that happening with Power Rangers.

  10. No way Power Rangers does well. Unless the trailers look amazing. Yea it was popular in the day but how many people can go back and enjoy that show as an adult? Its more unwatchable then the worst Saved By the Bell episodes. Turtles holds up. Especially the movies. It has things for adults to enjoy. People think that old movie was good maybe the new one was. I don’t see that happening with Power Rangers.

  11. Love the episode guys. Never heard of the movie you were talking about. Sounds strangely interesting. Funny that I’m your celebrity fan. There’s a long story behind my screen name. Not worth sharing lol. I have no idea how well Power Rangers will do. I just know I won’t be paying for it. So what did TMNT make? Add inflation and then minus 12 bucks. That’s my guess.

    1. The story behind your screen name is that your real name is Fred Savage and that your friends call you Freddie. (Don’t ruin this for us dude.)

      1. Okay I will just solidify it for you and say that is exactly it. 100% that is the story. No Doubt. :)

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